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Almost everyone on here had problems like you're having PrairieDoug.
Except a lot of us had them in winter.
A lot of us have had many cold, dark, frustrating nights
But remember, it's just as important to do the umbillicle in the house, and to walk through the dog. These last 2 steps will help to make him keep an eye on you, and should make it easier outside. some of us winter trainers did more inside, just because it was so darn cold outside.

Oh and those cold, dark, frustrating nights are not far away! LOL I'm in Calgary and we usually start getting frost and get our first snow in September! I know I will eventually win, just right now I can't reach the finish line! Thanks averyone for the support.

On the same line.....my son has recently started trying to walk her on umbilical as well because I know that she needs to listen to both of us. However, she has decided that it would be a better idea to just lie down in the middle of walking instead of just "putting on the brakes". Do lots of dogs do that? He got so frustrated the first night with her the first night that he ended up picking her up and carrying her home because there was no way that she would get up and walk. I can understand her putting on the brakes but just lying down? We went together tonight and she did the same thing again...but to both of us. Is this just her new way of not giving up control? That's what I think and just want confirmation I guess. And yes, Dukesdad, to be honest I am VERY glad that I am not doing this in the winter. Sorry.

Another reason having the lead around you waist is it is always a consistent distance that the dog has before the lead starts to tighten, so it helps to teach them self control. If you are holding the leash, each walk or even during the same walk where you hold it is not consistent, whereas when it is around your waist it is always the same length before the dog gets a correction, which really helps them to learn what their boundaries are for walking. So that in itself, helps teach them self control and loose leash walking. It is much more effective than trying to hold the lead and give corrections. Also you will be more relaxed which travels to the dog! I've tried so many methods to teach my husky to walk nicely and umbillical with a martingale collar and the turning directions when she pulls is by far the best and quickest with the longest last results.

So, the walking outside is going great. Everybody gave great advice and I think we might be ready to move up to having more people along on the walk. However, have been doing umbilical in the house as well and holy crow is she resisting!! She actually tried to attack me the other day when I tried to correct her. Snapped at ankles, growling, baring teeth, everything. Is this just her way of saying that I can have control outside and she gets control inside? I did ground her to her room for a while after that and when she came out, she walked over and peed on the rug. Back to her room she went. She did mellow out after that, but has been really struggling against me since (2 days) when we are doing umbilical inside. Hasn\'t attacked again, but I am worried about what is going to happen. Any advice would be great.

Because of this rebelling in the house, I'd do a bit more of walking through the dog, exercises going up and down stairs without her leading you, and if the biting, nipping, and peeing in places she's not supposed to continues, I'd use the jail method for punishment a bit more often. This means you tie her to a railing or doorknob, so that she has enough leash to sit but not to lay down. A time out in a separate room is ok, but obviously wasn't enough to punish her for the last incident. You may also want to do some soft pins, repeat them daily for the next week and see how she reacts, and if anything changes. Good luck, it's great that there's improvements in other areas!!

We have done soft pins and she freaks out every time. Tries to attack and all that nonsense. Her room though isn't a seperate room though, we portioned off part of the dining room. So, she can see everybody else in the living room and just gets ignored. I feel so guilty doing that to her but I know that it's better to have tough love now than a rebellious dog forever. But by soft pin, do you mean the one where you hold her by the collar and then make her lie down? Cause that one she doesn't have as much of a problem with, still tries to bite sometimes but lets us lie her down without fighting much. But if we actually hold her down in a position where she can't move then she freaks out. And I mean freak out!! The walking thru her we have down pat, she won't let herself get in the way cause she's been stepped on before. Will definitely try the tying her method of jail and see how that goes, if it improves her or not. She can't choke right? Cause she will thrash and through herself around if she doesn't like something. Thanks for the advice again LBinkworth.